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November 21st, 2004
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Date:November 23rd, 2004 07:11 pm (UTC)
    I'm claiming that both are extremely useful, and that life cannot be fully engaged without both.

Hmm... I don't think I agree with that, as stated, but it could be that our disagreement is more about words than essence. I think we might at least agree that there are things outside of science which are important, and that religion often touches on those things. Spirituality is an awfully imprecise word for those things, and I worry that is has connotations that I don't want for the purposes of this discussion, but I can think of no good alternative, for the moment, so I will use it. It seems to me that religion often touches on spirituality mainly as a means to its real end, and that real end is to gain control over people by claiming monopoly authority over spirituality. It may be that some religions don't do this, but I am concerned that by saying that religion is what people need, I might be encouraging people to satisfy this need by going to the power mongers in those religions that use that tactic.

Do you see why I'm concerned about this way of putting things? I'm not sure we actually disagree on the essential point.
    I don't care anymore what others think. Apparently you do, and that is something I will have to live with, haha.

I think we all have a tremendous capacity for mental self-indulgence and even self-deception. I don't think any of us can learn to think well without testing our ideas against the sensibilities of others. It is the habit of anticipating criticism of our ideas that makes us more careful at thinking, and it is mainly experience that teaches us what types of criticism we might expect.
    We certainly seem to enjoy the use of words, don't we? ;)

I hope so, since this is a text based medium. 8-)

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